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Posted 24 September 2006 - 04:11 PM

On Saturday, AC Milan dropped their first points against Livorno with a 0-0 draw. The game was pretty much boring as Livorno decided to defend but the Milanese midfield were to blame as well for not penetrating well. Ancelloti and Seedorf seemed to have a problem during the match.

Messina and Catania played on dirty game, full of cards. It was weird for Catania because, both scorers were given cards, in which Mascara was sent off right after he scored. The match ended in 2-2 draw.

Torino picked up their second point of the season when they played against Regina. The match ended in a 1-1 draw.

Parma hosted Roma and they wish they didn't. Montella opens the score for Roma followed by Perrota 40 min later. Daniel De Rossi, again, scores for his side to make it 3-0 and Aquilani adds the cherry on top with a 4th goal.

Inter hosted Chievo and started off just like Roma. They were leading 4-0 through Crespo (2), Stankovic and Samuel. However, Inter being Inter, conceded almost threw away a spectacular performance when they allowed 3 goals in the last 13 minutes.

Now for what surprised me the most, is that Empoli beat Palermo 2-0 at home.

Cagliara earned their second point of the season and held back a well-started Siena.

Ascoli hosted Sampdora today to come out with one point as both teams drew 1-1.

Lazio saved them self some face with a 1-0 win against Atalanta.

Finally, Fiorentina play Udinese today in about 2 hours and a half.

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 04:19 PM

I'm happy to see Crespo doing well at Inter.
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Posted 24 September 2006 - 04:31 PM

Inter - Roma to fight all the way to the end.... depends on who will drop more points on the way...

its a long way to go... Inter seem able to screw their chance quite well... Mancini will kill Moratti by a sudden heart attack this season

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 04:33 PM

What did the Mascara from Max Factor, the make up of make up artists Catania do to get carded after he scored?
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Posted 24 September 2006 - 04:43 PM

I want Milan to win Serie A, but the way Spalletti has Roma playing last season, and managing to do the same this season, if they win the Scudetto it will be fully deserved. Inter need to get a new manager. Can someone explain why they buy all these new players but never think of getting a new coach? Im being serious..I dont follow Inter closely enough to know the answer. Because he could coach World XI and still come 3rd to Rochdale and Scunthorpe if they were in the same league.
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Posted 24 September 2006 - 04:50 PM

Because the whole idea was to make them stable...they cant change coaches every year...give the man some time.
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Posted 24 September 2006 - 04:50 PM

well Marc u have to look back at Inter end of 90's & early 2000's... Perez looked like a sane president in Comparison.. every couple of month a new coach with a totally different style

after Moratti stepped down .. it was a way of the current managment to convey they are stable... don't forget .. Inter are now considered winners of the last 2 leagues :P , plus he did win the Cup with Inter

but i believe this is Mancini last season...and last chance

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 05:22 PM

Seedorf Vs Ancelotti: Who Wins?

Yesterday’s disappointing – yet hardly disastrous – AC Milan draw against Livorno was marked by a bad-tempered exchange between Coach Carlo Ancelotti and Dutch midfield veteran Clarence Seedorf. One of the ‘advantages’ of modern TV multi-camera coverage is that now we have the dubious pleasure of being able to slam incidents like this on the post-match dissecting table.

“You must play the ball faster. You’re too slow!” yelled the Coach from the touchline in Seedorf’s direction. Seedorf showed barely concealed anger as he snapped back at the tactician “Concentrate on Coaching. Don’t just criticise. Instead of shouting, you could consider giving us a hand from the bench!”

Ancelotti responded in apoplectic kind, not about to be outdone by a lippy subordinate. “And you’re lucky I don’t have any more substitutions to make or you’d be off!” Rather menstrual behaviour from two seasoned professionals, and the second week in a row that a row has broken out between the boss and one of his not-so-merry men.

The previous one showed that it wasn’t just an isolated case of Ancelotti getting under Seedorf’s rather thin skin as Carlo had also irritated the usually angelic evangelist Kaká. The Brazilian wasn’t happy with Ancelotti’s consistent poking away at players and changes in position, fuming at the tactician but tersely accepting “Ancelotti is the commander. I’ll follow the commander.”

Ancelotti has been stirring the pot with what could be described as either ‘creative’ substitutions to keep the rivals on their toes or a rota that highlights that the star is the team – not the individual. Some people prefer the term ‘recipe for disaster’ after his frequent bust-ups with Shevchenko were seen as a factor in the Ukrainian’s acceptance of the Chelsea offer that took him to London.

The Coach himself sees this sort of confrontation as normal – and something zoomed into and blown up out of all proportion by the cameras. “Everything I say is being converted into a soap opera. There are cameras that are flaunting rules of conduct and eavesdropping on what I say to my players. This can’t be allowed to happen”, snapped the Coach.

“It already happened with Kaká [last round], but it mustn’t be allowed to happen again. It’s not ethical to poke a camera into what a Coach says to his players”, he added. There is some truth to this as cameras are now nosing their way into more or less everything that goes on in the stadium – a kind of ‘Big Brother’ that satisfies voyeuristic instincts in viewers.

Then again this is something that goes along with pocketing a massive salary. There’s something a little unintelligent in accepting – even demanding – a huge amount of money that comes largely from TV rights and then saying that the damn cameras are getting in the way. It forms part and parcel of the modern world of football.

It’s the same old paradox of deciding exactly how far this ‘intrusion’ should go. Perhaps knowing there’s a camera focused on you should change your behaviour. Few poke a finger up a nostril and dig for emeralds while somebody’s pointing a camera at you. Perhaps Ancelotti shouldn’t talk that way if he doesn’t want to get recorded doing just that.

This is a double-edged weapon that cuts into the players too. Seedorf and Kaká aren’t paid to play 90 minutes in each and every game. They’re professionals who are paid to be at the service of a team that is headed by a Coach. This is a fact. If they don’t like it – the door’s over there. Scenes of moody teenage behaviour are far too common nowadays: and they weren’t in the past.

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but part of professionalism is accepting that there’s a time and a place for everything. Ancelotti should know that as well as his players, and if he hasn’t made it clear to his men how they are expected to behave on the field then he should carry the can for the results.

There’s a simple choice here: you either behave according to accepted, agreed standards like in the non-camera-saturated past or you live with the fact that you’re going to be caught on tape and rewound over and over again. The only winners are the TV companies that get to broadcast these spats over and over again or fans whose interest in the game is so shallow that it needs spicing up with some gossip. Real football lovers want simple things: their Coach to coach, their players to play and all of them to come together for the good of the clubs we follow.


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Posted 24 September 2006 - 06:51 PM

Nothing new, Carlo always has bust ups with the players. and on this occasion I agree with both. Seedorf is a slow and lazy waste of space who shouldn't be started let alone kept on the whole 90. While Carlo is a s*it manager who holds back the team with his bizarre tactical changes. It is being blown out of proportion though.


I'm looking forward to Inter vs Bayern after today, conceding 3 gols to Chievo like that is shambolic, and its not just Mancini's fault. The players at the back, (who I don't rate much anyway), have not been pulling their weight for Inter - ever. Thats the main reason they have only won one major trophy in 20 years, and even then it wasn't because they played well.
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Posted 15 October 2006 - 04:21 PM

Something went my way this weekend at least.

Milan with a 3rd or 4th consecutive draw see them selves 10 points behind the leaders. Atleast they found the net this time around.

Roma, unable to perform consistently, lose 1-0 to Reginna thanks to Nicola Amuroso goal. The match saw a lot of yellow cards too.

Newly promoted Torino stamp their first win in Serie A over Chievo Verona. 1 -0 through Roberto Stellone.

Parma continue to struggle big time as they make it 5 losses and 1 draw against Udinese. Udinese won the game 3-0, goals through Muntari and Iaquinta (2).

In a tight match between Atalanta and Palermo, Inter benifit as Palermo dropped all 3 points when they lost 2-3 at home. Bresciano and Corini scored for Palermo and Doni, Rivalta, and Tissone scored for Atalanta.

After a bad start to the season, Fiorentina continue their winning ways as Toni finds form. This time, Empoli lost at home thanks to goals from Toni and Mutu. Final result: 1-2. Only bad side to this match was that Fiorentina racked up many yellow cards.

Tomas and Filipini scored for Livorno to grant them a 2-0 away win.

Finally and most importantly, Dejan Stankovic found an answer to Catania's Mascara as he scored twice to save Mancini's job with a 2-1 win at home.
rank/team/country/play/win/draw/lose/for/at/diff/points
1 Inter Milan Italy 6 4 2 0 12 8 4 14
2 Roma Italy 6 4 0 2 10 3 7 12
3 Palermo Italy 6 4 0 2 14 12 2 12
4 Udinese Italy 6 3 2 1 9 4 5 11
5 Siena Italy 6 3 2 1 8 6 2 11
6 Livorno Italy 6 3 2 1 6 4 2 11
7 Atalanta Italy 6 2 3 1 7 5 2 9
8 Empoli Italy 6 2 2 2 6 5 1 8
9 Messina Italy 6 2 2 2 7 7 0 8
10 Sampdoria Italy 6 1 4 1 10 10 0 7
11 Catania Italy 6 1 2 3 7 12 -5 5
12 Torino Italy 6 1 2 3 4 10 -6 5
13 AC Milan Italy 6 3 3 0 6 2 4 4
(8 points deducted)
14 Cagliari Italy 5 0 3 2 4 6 -2 3
15 Ascoli Italy 6 0 3 3 3 8 -5 3
16 Chievo Verona Italy 6 0 1 5 5 10 -5 1
17 Parma Italy 6 0 1 5 3 14 -11 1
18 Lazio Italy 5 3 0 2 8 4 4 -2
(11 points deducted)
19 Reggina Italy 6 2 2 2 8 9 -1 -7
(15 points deducted)
20 Fiorentina Italy 6 3 0 3 8 6 2 -10
(19 points deducted)

Lazio and Cagliari are yet to play.



As for Serie B, Juventus are playing tomorrow against Treviso.

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 07:53 PM

Shiit! I thought the Fiorentina match will be shown now, but it was in the morning.

Anyways Palermo beat Fiorentina 3-2 to stay on top with Inter Milan.

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 05:15 PM

After Sampdoria's president talking about how Sampdoria could be successful, his players took it to heart and won 3-0 against a struggeling Chievo Verona.

Today's shocker was Lazio's massive 5-0 over Udinese, a team that is rappidly falling after Spalleti's departure.

Palermo still cruisin with a 3-0 win over Torino.

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 08:07 PM

did u read what the udinese coach said after the game?
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Posted 14 November 2006 - 12:25 AM

No, what did he say?

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 12:55 PM

I would like to know as well.

But here's what Udine president Vittorio Pozzo said;

“We played like amateurs, but it seems banal for me to fire the Coach. These players are lacking nothing to be world class and they live in luxury. On Monday everyone will have a deserved day off, though it will be followed by a long ‘ritiro’.”
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